- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
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#5597581 - 04/13/1211:06 AMRe: FORUM SALES "PROBATION" LIST - no discussions
[Re: Jeffro]
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
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Posts: 11149
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Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
#5597684 - 04/13/1211:57 AMRe: FORUM SALES "PROBATION" LIST - no discussions
[Re: SAGAT]
comix4funcomix4fun This is one of the rare times that having no friends works in my favor.
TOTAL NEWBIE
Registered: 06/30/02
Posts: 23961
Loc: No Soup For You!
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Shark
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
He kept book and sold it.
At a $920 loss of which you only gave him $400 of.
Did you know the book was restored when you sold Twistty the book? I saw the book scanned here and I could tell from the scan that obviously the book was color touched.
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I'm not a dealer, but as far as I can see.... none of my keys are softening... they're as firm as ever.- jimjum12
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
He kept book and sold it.
At a $920 loss of which you only gave him $400 of.
So he sold the book for zero dollars? I was told after the anger subsided that this was a form of settlement so we're square as agreed upon with a firm handshake. But this blew up even after. This is the truth.
#5597717 - 04/13/1212:07 PMRe: FORUM SALES "PROBATION" LIST - no discussions
[Re: SAGAT]
comix4funcomix4fun This is one of the rare times that having no friends works in my favor.
TOTAL NEWBIE
Registered: 06/30/02
Posts: 23961
Loc: No Soup For You!
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: comix4fun
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Shark
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Originally Posted By: SAGAT
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
He kept book and sold it.
At a $920 loss of which you only gave him $400 of.
So he sold the book for zero dollars? I was told after the anger subsided that this was a form of settlement so we're square as agreed upon with a firm handshake. But this blew up even after. This is the truth.
He bought from you for $1400, detailed on this forum, sold it for $480 because of the discovered resto, leaving a $920 loss.
He took $400 from you initially believing what you told him about not knowing. Then you got further information and an eye witness account of your knowledge of the resto, at which point he realized perhaps you did know and that you weren't negotiating the refund in good faith and it was unacceptable for him to take the brunt of the loss for something he found out you knew all along.
It's all here on the list, in the discussion area.
- Yes I have updated the list and removed myself as I should never have been on this list to begin with.
That's not your call to make. You cannot just remove yourself, acting all on your own, any more than I can add someone, acting all on my own. Things don't happen in a vacuum.
If you feel you should not be included, then perhaps we can discuss the reasons why you feel that way. It is completely inappropriate for any person on the list to take themself off the list.
You're way out of line here and If you truly want to be a positive member of this forum, this is not the way to do it.
Apologies if you feel this is not appropriate but I don't know who added me on to begin with. I don't like to be included in such a the list when I have not done anything wrong. If you have concrete evidence (not an opinion) that I should be on this list then go ahead but until then I am off and never should have been on. Have a nice day.
So, we're supposed to accept your word and nothing else that you do not belong on the list? Again, it doesn't work that way.
If you believe you don't belong on the list, then let's talk about why and maybe come to a resolution.
My high school classmate under twistty bought a avengers 1 raw from me which was never cgc graded. 3years later I saw him in a gym where I play basketball and he started getting violent .He claimed the book was restored so I was threatened -I had no choice but to refund him $400 even though the book was never graded. I did not want to engage in violence-in fact I could have called police. So I thought that was end of it according to him as he thought we reached and agreed on a settlement (I was of the opinion I was threatened and robbed) -that should have been the end of it then there was trash talk about me from him on the boards the very next day etc I believe I was put on probe list for that transaction. I have always paid for everything I bought and always delivered when sold. I never deal in raw books again. Thats the whole story for re-assurance.
So I am not to included in this probie list.
So did he keep the book or was it returned to you when you gave him the $400?
He kept book and sold it.
At a $920 loss of which you only gave him $400 of.
So he sold the book for zero dollars? I was told after the anger subsided that this was a form of settlement so we're square as agreed upon with a firm handshake. But this blew up even after. This is the truth.
My advice to you is PM Twisty,and if he says you are square then it's all good.But to take yourself off the probie list is not gonna work.
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This is my sig.There are many like it but this one is mine. Every collection,from the most valuable Golden age,to the readiest of reading copy Moderns,is assembled with care and thought,and is worthy of respect because of it,if for no other reason.RMA
I'm not a dealer, but as far as I can see.... none of my keys are softening... they're as firm as ever.- jimjum12
Did you know the book was restored when you sold Twistty the book? I saw the book scanned here and I could tell from the scan that obviously the book was color touched.
If I knew the book was restored I would never have sold the book to him. We both looked at it at time of sale and he thought it looked good too.
