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#1398552 - 10/09/06 03:15 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: joe_collector]
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Also, you point to the fact that Conan #1 is so plentiful as a negative, when in reality, it's a huge positive for its influence and instant popularity. Publishers emulate financial success, not failure.





I didn't point to Conan #1 being plentiful being a negative, rather that GL 76 is scarce in HG being a positive. there's a difference.

I can see your point that Marvel's bronze and DC's bronze age are different, so perhaps there need to be recognition for both books. I suppose I would argue for equal recognition with Conan #1 as the beginning of the Bronze Age.
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#1398553 - 10/09/06 03:33 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: Foolkiller]
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I have always dated the end of the Silver Age is when Kirby left Marvel to join DC

So, actually, the two companies become intertwined in that regard, and Marvel was rarely good after that - just occasional blips on individual titles, but that is just my humble opine

I also have never liked the term BRONZE, as that led into the equally dumb COPPER concept

Then again, SILVER never appealed to me except on jewelry - i prefer using the term Second Heroic Age, cuz i do not think of the comics eras in terms of when super heroes began/stopped in their popularity - there is sooooo much more to the comics world than super heroes, which i like a lot as much as other genres, just not the main one which runs my personal reading habits wagon

To me, having read a LOT of comics, the GOLDEN AGE OF COMICS is circa 1900 thru 1920, when so much good stuff was first invented, like Happy Hooligan, Little Nemo, Mutt & Jeff, Krazy Kat, Bringing Up Father, etc - and also began being collected into comic books.

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#1398554 - 10/09/06 03:37 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: BLBcomics]
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I think all the people repeatedly crying about not getting a custom title should be inducted into the "Crybaby Crew", and forever carry that as their custom title!

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#1398555 - 10/09/06 03:37 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: BLBcomics]
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Ok ok. JC Superstar. But only because he martyred his ID.

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I also have never liked the term BRONZE, as that led into the equally dumb COPPER concept




Old fogey.



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#1398556 - 10/09/06 03:39 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: BLBcomics]
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And the reason Conan 1 2 4 5 onwards are so plentiful is because some affidavidt return frauds specialists known in some circles as Mafiaosa salted away some 30,000 of each - but no #3

We at Comics & Comix began buying out of that hoard in 1973

- cases of Conan #1 with 300 copies per case were $600 the first year we tuned in, we must have bought 5 cases that way, then the price went up to $3 each ($900 a case by 1974)

Other dealers were buying out of this hoard as well

By the time Chuck Rozanski got the remnants in the mid 80s, turning it into the Mile High Two collection of some 2.2 million comic books, it had pretty much been picked thru by many others, so one can just "speculate" what it originally contained

There also were no Silver Surfer #4 in that holdings, located in the NY/NJ area - that is why that book is scarce today - I wrote about this in CBM back in the mid 1990s, don't remember which number right now

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#1398557 - 10/09/06 03:41 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: joe_collector]
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I also have never liked the term BRONZE, as that led into the equally dumb COPPER concept




Old fogey.






i prefer the term "dinosaur" myself

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#1398558 - 10/09/06 03:56 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: BLBcomics]
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There also were no Silver Surfer #4 in that holdings, located in the NY/NJ area - that is why that book is scarce today - I wrote about this in CBM back in the mid 1990s, don't remember which number right now




I think you also covered this in the TwoMorrows Comic Book Artist #6-- the only reason I remember is I used to quote from it here on the forums before you showed up yourownself.

But are you saying you know there was a single source for back issue comics that all you 1970s dealer guys pulled from, and that only the dregs of that single connected source became what we later heard about as Mile High II?

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#1398559 - 10/09/06 03:59 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: Zonker]
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Ok ok. JC Superstar. But only because he martyred his ID.

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But are you saying you know there was a single source for back issue comics that all you 1970s dealer guys pulled from, and that only the dregs of that single connected source became what we later heard about as Mile High II?




I'll bet he wishes he snagged a few cases of Hulk 181 when he was there.

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#1398560 - 10/09/06 04:33 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: Zonker]
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There also were no Silver Surfer #4 in that holdings, located in the NY/NJ area - that is why that book is scarce today - I wrote about this in CBM back in the mid 1990s, don't remember which number right now




I think you also covered this in the TwoMorrows Comic Book Artist #6-- the only reason I remember is I used to quote from it here on the forums before you showed up yourownself.

But are you saying you know there was a single source for back issue comics that all you 1970s dealer guys pulled from, and that only the dregs of that single connected source became what we later heard about as Mile High II?




That was just one source, albeit a major source to be sure - these guys were getting their stash by affidavidt return fraud, starting circa 1965 or so, and stashing thru sometime in the mid 1970s

I was mostly always buying my own batches from local ID distributors, as well as the Seuling start up which began with SANDMAN #1 S&K, the first book Seuling shipping out we bought at Comics & Comix

The stash Chuck R bought (Mile High Two) yes, it was the remnants of a once much bigger stash - and mostly east coasters got into it, as shipping across country was very expensive, and many of us had our own regular sources

this Conan #1 source i mention was the largest one i knew about

It was not worth it to get copies of just anything out of that source as we could buy them cheaper on the ground coming in the door

I covered parts of this in Comic Book Artist 6 and 7, and always meant to contribute a Part 3, then got into researching pre 1930 comic book stuff, finding the first comic book in America dating back to 1842 - now it is a lot of years later and i am back to researching this time span again more so than i was for a decade there.

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#1398561 - 10/09/06 04:38 PM Re: GL 76 -- HG Prices Still Going Up [Re: joe_collector]
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But are you saying you know there was a single source for back issue comics that all you 1970s dealer guys pulled from, and that only the dregs of that single connected source became what we later heard about as Mile High II?




I'll bet he wishes he snagged a few cases of Hulk 181 when he was there.




Actually, i would have had approx 900 copies of Hulk 181, as sales in the 1970s were a lot larger than they are these days -all sold off at cover price at the time. If sales dipped below 50 copies of these 25 books, it was not considered important enough to worry about stocking every month as i would rather have put the bucks into some other hot book which would keep on selling months later.

for example, i bought 13,000 Dazzler #1 - and sold 12,000 of them, with a thousand being destroyed in my ware house flood in 1986

I was buying 10,000 per month of the John Byrne X-men, having begun increasing the orders with #100 and by #108 had kicked it into high gear spec, as it was no longer speculation, as the X book was a proven seller - there was a time one could carry nothing but Xmen and see that as 90% of your sales. EVERYTHING else was in that other 10% - twas a bit crazy then

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