#1141067 - 04/01/06 07:46 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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Thanks. I will try the PH paper. I have the Hygrometer and dehumidifier.
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#1141068 - 04/01/06 10:11 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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#1141070 - 04/02/06 01:14 AM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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Top Staple... this is very painful to observe
 
AAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! It looks like the equivalent of Cancer for comic books!
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#1141071 - 04/02/06 05:44 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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Mr. Zipper
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Thanks to Steve and Bruce for sharing this alarming information. After the first several posts I couldn't get to my safe fast enough. Apparently, my books look okay, but my heart goes out to Bruce. 
Were the safes in question all METAL safes?
I've been using a Brinks molded safe for years similar to the safe on the right pictured below. I think I bought it at Wal-Mart. (I've found that a legal hanging file folder sized safe turned on it's side is the perfect fit for comics.)
On very close inspection, I found a bit of corrosion on the screws that secure the locking mechanism (on the outside of the safe). I can't help but wonder if materials inside the safe are offgassing through these screw holes and corroding the screws. Perhaps because the interior of the safe is solid plastic with no seams, the contents inside the safe were spared from the corrosive offgassing.
I've removed all my books in light of this info, but I am curious as to whether their could be a difference between the metal safes and the molded safes.
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#1141072 - 04/02/06 06:30 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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Worldsbestcomics
I have no influence with CGC.
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I suppose, the Hulk 182 clearly will need the staples replaced to protect the book itself. Even if I do that though, and even if it would end up a green label "qualified" 9.8, I don't imagin it will be worth all that much... maybe not enough to have a professional charge me to put in vintage staples.
plus... it may be too depressing to see it in a green slab. My other option is to replace the staples myself and just throw it on my new spinner rack as a "reader" copy.
Bruce,
Get the 182 restored. It will still be beautiful even in a green label. If it depresses you and you want to find a new home for it, I know a guy... 
But, seriously. Attitudes toward professional restoration have changed over the years, and may turn around again in the future. It is too soon to consign your baby to the Spinner Rack.
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#1141074 - 04/02/06 07:04 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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Arty
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Top Staple... this is very painful to observe
Quite incredible. That staple is worse than any staple I have ever seen before. Looks like it has been in a salt bath for years. No way this was caused only by humidity.
You should buy two hygrometers and test outside and inside humidity of the safe simultaneously. Put a couple of iron items inside safe to see what happens. Maybe a small plate abraded with a sand paper to maximize surface area.
And finally, this is very important: If there is metal left under that crust, do not get those staples replaced. Cleaned: yes, but not replaced.  e
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#1141075 - 04/02/06 09:20 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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binarysunrise
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Perhaps because the interior of the safe is solid plastic with no seams, the contents inside the safe were spared from the corrosive offgassing.
Um, isn't plastic (at least among conservation people) one of the worst things to store in due to the offgassing of the *plastic*? Though I guess some plastic/pvc is worse than others...(otherwise why would CGC encapulate comics in plastic....)
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#1141076 - 04/02/06 09:58 PM
Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe
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As I was reading this I certainly am thinking that the wet pressing then slabbing is a very likely part of the problem.
Not likely, or you'd see it happening on all the books that we've seen in the resub upgrade database.
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