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#1141087 - 04/03/06 11:14 PM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: selegue]
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I would be interested in seeing information on staple alloys or the amount of impurities for certain years. I thought I heard something about staple rust being prevalent on Amazing Spider-man #129's. It was published the same year as the IH 182. Perhaps there were poor quality staples used that year?(High in Iron)
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#1141088 - 04/04/06 12:32 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: drdonaldblake]
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what about metal filing cabinets?????????????????




Tracy Heft said in his article that metal filing cabinets are an ideal storage medium.

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#1141089 - 04/04/06 03:31 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: FFB]
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what about metal filing cabinets?????????????????




Tracy Heft said in his article that metal filing cabinets are an ideal storage medium.



They seemed to have worked just fine for the White Mountains.

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#1141090 - 04/04/06 08:41 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: selegue]
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Was there a chance that the staples were buffed, removing the coating, at some point?




Jack brings up an interesting point here, given the missed staple manipulation by CGC on the infamous Ewert FF #3. Bruce, you mentioned that the dealer you bought this book from has no qualms about pressing, so now I guess the question needs to be asked if he also has no qualms about staple cleaning....
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#1141091 - 04/04/06 09:25 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: AlanF]
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#1141092 - 04/04/06 09:48 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: FFB]
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what about metal filing cabinets?????????????????




Tracy Heft said in his article that metal filing cabinets are an ideal storage medium.




Uh, Scott

That is not quite what I wrote. What I wrote was:

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One option is metal, either in the form of shelving or in the form of boxes, safes or vaults. However, metal has it's own set of problems that the devoted collector should be conscious of. For starters, unprotected metal surfaces are susceptible to rust in the presence of moisture. For this reason all metallic surfaces need to be coated with a moisture resistant barrier. While most metal products used in the home or office are enamelled, regular wear and tear can result in the exposure of the enamelled surface to the ambient atmospheric conditions.





I ended the article by writing:

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I think that using a metallic container is not as simple as finding a box that fits, putting your comics in and then sealing the collection away forever. There are several factors to consider (as mentioned above) and the final decision is ultimately influenced by financial ability. As Gary (Carter) mentioned, additives (such as lubricants and grease) and the potential for rusting makes choosing a metallic container debatable, but if the container adequately supports the comics (which should be in mylars, anyway) and a suitable environment can be created and maintained in order to ensure the preservation of the comics being stored, there should be no foreseeable problem.




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#1141093 - 04/04/06 10:47 AM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: newerthannew]
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Sorry Tracey, but if that is what FFB says you said, then that's what you said.

Please go back and check your sources. You've got to be wrong.
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#1141094 - 04/04/06 01:14 PM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: newerthannew]
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Nice try, Tracey, but like Team America says, if I say you said it, you said it and there's no point in you trying to say any different.

Quote:

Quote:

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what about metal filing cabinets?????????????????




Tracy Heft said in his article that metal filing cabinets are an ideal storage medium.




Uh, Scott

That is not quite what I wrote. What I wrote was:

Quote:

One option is metal, either in the form of shelving or in the form of boxes, safes or vaults. However, metal has it's own set of problems that the devoted collector should be conscious of. For starters, unprotected metal surfaces are susceptible to rust in the presence of moisture. For this reason all metallic surfaces need to be coated with a moisture resistant barrier. While most metal products used in the home or office are enamelled, regular wear and tear can result in the exposure of the enamelled surface to the ambient atmospheric conditions.





I ended the article by writing:

Quote:

I think that using a metallic container is not as simple as finding a box that fits, putting your comics in and then sealing the collection away forever. There are several factors to consider (as mentioned above) and the final decision is ultimately influenced by financial ability. As Gary (Carter) mentioned, additives (such as lubricants and grease) and the potential for rusting makes choosing a metallic container debatable, but if the container adequately supports the comics (which should be in mylars, anyway) and a suitable environment can be created and maintained in order to ensure the preservation of the comics being stored, there should be no foreseeable problem.




Thanks
Tracey Heft
www.eclipsepaper.com




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#1141095 - 04/04/06 01:23 PM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: FFB]
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Nice try, Tracey, but like Team America says, if I say you said it, you said it and there's no point in you trying to say any different.

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

what about metal filing cabinets?????????????????




Tracy Heft said in his article that metal filing cabinets are an ideal storage medium.




Uh, Scott

That is not quite what I wrote. What I wrote was:

Quote:

One option is metal, either in the form of shelving or in the form of boxes, safes or vaults. However, metal has it's own set of problems that the devoted collector should be conscious of. For starters, unprotected metal surfaces are susceptible to rust in the presence of moisture. For this reason all metallic surfaces need to be coated with a moisture resistant barrier. While most metal products used in the home or office are enamelled, regular wear and tear can result in the exposure of the enamelled surface to the ambient atmospheric conditions.





I ended the article by writing:

Quote:

I think that using a metallic container is not as simple as finding a box that fits, putting your comics in and then sealing the collection away forever. There are several factors to consider (as mentioned above) and the final decision is ultimately influenced by financial ability. As Gary (Carter) mentioned, additives (such as lubricants and grease) and the potential for rusting makes choosing a metallic container debatable, but if the container adequately supports the comics (which should be in mylars, anyway) and a suitable environment can be created and maintained in order to ensure the preservation of the comics being stored, there should be no foreseeable problem.




Thanks
Tracey Heft
www.eclipsepaper.com







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#1141096 - 04/04/06 02:04 PM Re: Important information about storing comic books in fire proof/resistant safe [Re: FFB]
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Nice try, Tracey, but like Team America says, if I say you said it, you said it and there's no point in you trying to say any different.




Yup, you can include me in the camp of believing FFB on this one. Tracey needs to provide more concrete proof, like a video recording, to change my mind.
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