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#1327114 - 08/19/06 08:32 PM One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco
awe4one awe4one TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 07/26/02 Posts: 16660 Loc: Anytime/Anywhere	It's one year to the day that the Jason Ewert scandal was brought to light on these boards. And where are we at as a result... - No formal charges have been filed against Ewert despite many grand promises. I'm not holding my breath some are forthcoming. Another in a long line of big talk with no action to back it up... - Collectors still do not have a formal list of that Ewert books have been potentially tainted. I know some of you have used the potential for litigation to defend CGC not releasing the info...but after a year of non-action on that front it seems the excuse is nothing but that...an excuse... - No formal Forum review board has been established despite promises by Steve Borock that one would be instituted quickly - Widespread manipulation of unpressed comics continue and has probably acceleralated since the scandal - The image database has never materialized - CGC still hasn't released what concrete action they've taken to ensure an Ewert situation doesn't reoccur. How exactly can CGC detect that Ewert type manipulation has occurred on a comic without a scan to compare...again? These are only a few of a whole list of unfulfilled questions that came out of the Ewert scandal. Looking back it seems not much has changed at all despite grand promises... Jim - _________________________ www.awe4one.com "I think I can list 10 people that could leave the boards to make them a peaceful place and you are on that list." - GCCBCO
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#1327115 - 08/19/06 08:50 PM Re: One Year Later... [Re: awe4one]
Red Hook Red Hook Cantankerdetecti witchuntinphotoshopedness Registered: 09/15/03 Posts: 21608 Loc: Paddling up Goon River	_________________________ The Manufactured Gold Thread still LIVES!....HERE! �Every act of dishonesty has at least two victims: the one we think of as the victim, and the perpetrator as well. Each little dishonesty makes another little rotten spot somewhere in the perpetrator's psyche.� - Lesley Conger
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#1327116 - 08/19/06 08:53 PM Re: One Year Later... [Re: Red Hook]
nerfherder-3 nerfherder-3 Nerf: Is this going to be one of those threads that will earn you a special nerdy personal title if you don't do exactly what it says??? Architecht: Maybe TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 04/12/04 Posts: 22730 Loc: Durham, NC	As JC would say... FUG ME!
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#1327117 - 08/19/06 08:59 PM Re: One Year Later... [Re: awe4one]
drice6900 drice6900 TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 10/30/02 Posts: 9817 Loc: The Mitten	Quote: CGC still hasn't released what concrete action they've taken to ensure an Ewert situation doesn't reoccur. How exactly can CGC detect that Ewert type manipulation has occurred on a comic without a scan to compare...again? - Actually, it seems CGC's detection program consists of using free labor from this board to do their work for them _________________________ "Fine - as soon as I finish this chapter of Tolkien! I always was a sucker for far-out fantasy!" - Captain America (Avengers Vol. 1, #46)
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#1327118 - 08/19/06 09:29 PM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: awe4one]
Ares Ares FORUM CRIER TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 02/28/03 Posts: 16956 Loc: Toronto Canada: MODS MORTIFIED	Quote: It's one year to the day that the Jason Ewert scandal was brought to light on these boards. And where are we at as a result... - No formal charges have been filed against Ewert despite many grand promises. I'm not holding my breath some are forthcoming. Another in a long line of big talk with no action to back it up... And no charges ever will. No court will ever touch this case. Other than a case of low value fraud what crime did he commit? Unless its a large value no courts will touch it _________________________
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#1327119 - 08/19/06 09:32 PM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: awe4one]
Davenport Davenport Chatzilla Registered: 07/22/05 Posts: 2055
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#1327120 - 08/19/06 10:35 PM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: Davenport]
hjaymcfrye hjaymcfrye Collectosaurus Rex Registered: 05/24/06 Posts: 380 Loc: Earth!	I am watching Nip/Tuck right now. Creepy. _________________________ Collector of low grade Silver Age Marvel comics, specifically those that followed the publication of FF #1.
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#1327121 - 08/19/06 11:37 PM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: awe4one]
MasterChief MasterChief The Collectinator Registered: 11/23/04 Posts: 311 Loc: Ventura Hwy	Quote: - The image database has never materialized It's by no surprise that nothing has been done. Whom does it benefit. Surly not CGC. Not until there is a material impact on the company will they take action. Let me ask a question regarding the creation of a digital image database. Why do you need to create something that already exists? Consider this before you say "well I've been told there's no such animal". The reason why the company may already have one is quite simple...it's called CYA. Yes that's right. You need to legally cover your behind from potential lawsuits arising from the damage done to a book during the grading and encapsulating process. One possible piece of evidence needed to counter any lawsuit could be a digital image. So the book is imaged coming in and the book is imaged going out. Good business sense, wouldn't you say? BTW... the system was probably well in place before the company opened their doors. It's just not being used for the purpose which you suggest. Fall 2000 Newsletter .
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#1327122 - 08/20/06 03:03 AM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: MasterChief]
awe4one awe4one TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 07/26/02 Posts: 16660 Loc: Anytime/Anywhere	I believe this has been brought up before...CGC does not take pics of every comic anymore... Jim _________________________ www.awe4one.com "I think I can list 10 people that could leave the boards to make them a peaceful place and you are on that list." - GCCBCO
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#1327123 - 08/20/06 12:59 PM Re: One Year Later...The Ewert Fiasco [Re: awe4one]
sterlingcomics sterlingcomics Mine was The Registry Buginator but I prefer(snip) TOTAL NEWBIE Registered: 12/24/03 Posts: 18371 Loc: Sniffing my Books	Good summary Jim. I for one would rather see someone give me the middle finger than tell me things that don't get done. At least it's an honest response. I love CGC but nothing to date has been accomplished on this matter. At least what can be quantified through actions and not words. To date, if you want to protect the hobby, it will be because of each person's due dilligence and communicating to the community...luckily these boards accomplish that end--and for that I am at least grateful for.
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